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Christopher Anderson: There are photojournalists in Magnum, but I don't see it as a photojournalist agency. It's more founded in documentary photography. If I were to use a term for myself, I feel I'd fit more closely in the bracket of documentary photography than photojournalism. The term "photojournalist" tends to be loaded with meaning: specifically that one reports the news. I don’t see that as my function. Even when I was photographing things that were news topics, like conflicts, my function was not that of a news reporter, my function was to comment on what I saw happen that day and to offer a subjective point of view. In my role I was commenting on what was happening, but also trying to communicate what it felt like to be there when it was happening.
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Exactly. But I would go further and say that I not just wanted to do that, that is in fact what I did do. I had no pretence of objectivity. I was photographing, giving my opinion, and I wanted you to know that I was giving my opinion.Did your unconventional approach make it initially more difficult to sell your photos, or was it beneficial from the start?
Well, I don't think I was going round articulating that to editors, saying, "No, I won't work for you unless you understand that what I do is subjective." With the agency I was with before it didn't make a difference, as I was already sort of working for "journalistic magazines" and I worked a lot for the NY Times Magazine. The kind of stories that I would do, even ones from conflict zones, would be longer and more in depth in their approach to what was happening there, trying to put what was happening in a more human intimate context rather than the headlines of the day. But to be honest the marketable advantage never crossed my mind at the time. I was just intent on trying to do what I did in the way I wanted to with as much integrity as possible.
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The process of making these choices have evolved over the years. I used to say that I was "a colour photographer", but at one point I was shooting a lot of black and white, especially when I was doing conflict work. Black and white has a way of adjusting the sense of time within a photo. There was a period where I would choose the language depending on what the subject matter was. Black and white offered a sort of timelessness that I wanted in that work. Now I am more of a colour photographer. My first, intuitive response to something now is to see it in colour, I think.
Annons
It's funny, I was just thinking about this earlier. I guess I probably prescribe more to the Garry Winogrand philosophy – he said he photographed people to see what people would look like photographed. There's not a particular subject I cover, I'm not a one-track person and I'd like to think there are different facets to my self. If I was to unify all of that visually into one thing, whether it is my photographs from documentary work, to more personal work, to family, I guess it is all linked together. There's a unifying element, I want to see my time on this planet and communicate a certain emotional quality of that time. I photograph my own human experience and the things I have seen and participated in.
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Yeah, especially with the blogosphere there is a lot of criticism. I can't pay attention to all that; I don't mean that in an arrogant way, it's just a waste of my energy and time. My photographs are a reflection of the experience I have, I can't really be ashamed or embarrassed about the photograph that results from those experiences, any more than I could be uncomfortable about the experiences themselves. There was recently an article where they compared pictures I took in a war zone to pictures I took in a fashion setting and there was some uproar about it. I do understand the sensitivity there, but actually, I've been to a fashion show and I've been to war and I don't see any conflict in that.
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Probably the most challenging one in many ways was when I took a boat with Haitian refugees trying to sail to the United States. That was the work that I received the Capa Gold Medal for. What was challenging in other ways was photographing in war zones which I don’t do any more. Not just because it's dangerous, but because I had more and more trouble reconciling my feelings about taking pictures in those situations.
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Interesting question – yes, it has. The process of becoming a member at Magnum is that you apply and if you do well you can become a nominee for two years, you work and then you show a body of work again, then you might become an associate, then you show another body of work to become a member. That process is interesting, it puts you into a position where you ask questions of yourself that are difficult to consider otherwise: 'What do I want to do with my pictures?', 'Why do I do things this way and not that way?' You come out the other side of it understanding more about yourself. The answers to those question are very personal answers, it's your work and it is not for a market and its not because other people do it this way. It is how it is because it is my experiences and how I see the world. I find that liberating.
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